We hate spam as much as we love Tim-Tams, your email is safe.

recent episodes

what is the business of making?

The Business of Making is your weekly dose of reality for handmade business owners. On the podcast we talk about making as a business, the making of a business, and what it REALLY takes to succeed as a maker and a business owner.

support the podcast

Do you love the show as much as we love bringing it to you? If so, we would love to invite over to our Patreon page, where you can help us produce the show for as little as $1/month. You can get access to bonus behind the scenes content, a link to your shop on the website and even a shoutout on the podcast! 

your hosts
jess van den
jess van den

Maker of Epheriell jewellery, teacher & podcaster at Create & Thrive, and mentor in The Thriver Circle.

deborah engelmajer
deborah engelmajer

Founder of Tizzit.co and host of the Maker’s Biz Summit, teacher and mentor at Tizzit HQ.

mikaela danvers
mikaela danvers
Founder of The Makers Collective and mentor in The Makers Academy